The Death of Osama and the Christian's Response

5/2/2011

I find it slightly un-nerving reading all the "Burn in Hell, Osama" posts on Facebook and Twitter. Yes, I understand he was public enemy number one. Yes, I understand that his entire life was a constant plotting of wickedness and violence. Yes, I understand he took the lives of many innocent people, and yes, I even understand that I will never be able to fathom the crippling loss and drowning sorrow that fills the families who lost loved ones in the 9/11 attacks. Still, as Christians, it seems wrong that we should ever rejoice or gloat that someone is in hell. Anyone who jokes or makes light of someone being in hell obviously does not understand the horror and utter agony that hell is. Hell, in all honesty, is so terrible and eternal that the weight of it should cause us to not wish it on even our worst enemies. God did not create hell for people (Matt 25:41) and it was never his intention that people should suffer there. God does not delight in the death of the wicked. "Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?" (Ezekiel 18:23)

I think God is grieved when people turn their back on His love and mercy and so choose hell and eternal death. I think we should despair for all lost souls, but rejoice in God's justice.

Thoughts or comments? Am I wrong? Let's dialogue.

19 Comments

paul

5/2/2011 03:15:29 am

I had made a similar comment on fb about this topic. I find it strange that so many professing Christians were responding with rejoicing of this man's death, when had it not been for God's mercy, they too would be a citizen of Hell. I also thought of Ezekiel, but 33:11 which says the same thing basically.
I don't think that God and the citizens of Heaven are rejoicing in Osama's death but I am sure that there is rejoicing in Heaven for His will being done. When God speaks in His holiness, we can rejoice in that but for these people to be holding a rally outside the nations capitol was offensive. This was Osama's time to die - had it been God's will, he could have died 10 years ago or even before 9/11.
So where I am at is like this - rejoicing with God that His will is done but also praying that Osama's family and people that he influenced will seek mercy and will bow the knee to God and give Him glory through these events.

Eric

5/2/2011 03:19:19 am

This is exactly what I was thinking Alex. You put it into words nicely. I noticed, also, that many of the "burn in hell" posts are actually from people who do not know Jesus. Its sad because many people don't realize that without Jesus we are ALL already condemned, whether we are doctors, lawyers, teachers, or terrorists. There are none righteous.

Michael

5/2/2011 03:19:50 am

God didn't intend for human beings to go to suffer in hell when he made it?

What other mistakes did God make? I think American Idol might have been an unintended consequence of a previous policy as well.

Bedros Enfiedjian

5/2/2011 03:42:30 am

... good blog and comments. Jesus asked as to not only love our neighbors, but enemies as well. Praying for our enemies will only cause our faith to grow - in Jesus' teachings and ways to live.

Kevin

5/2/2011 03:57:43 am

I'm pretty sure the Israelites rejoiced when goliath fell and i'm pretty sure he didn't go to heaven, was that wrong?

John Golden

5/2/2011 04:15:50 am

Prov 24:17-18 "Do not Gloat when your enemy falls; when they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice, or the Lord will see and disapprove and turn his wrath from them". I remember 9/11 very well...I remember the terrorists dancing in the streets, chanting slogans, and celebrating...I was disheartened to see the same reaction by Americans with the death of this terrorist leader.

I am pleased that the families of the victims will have closure...I am pleased that our military was able to execute this mission strike without any losses. I give glory to God for his will being done. I worry when I see so many celebrating.

And to Michael, as a parent, the single most difficult responsibility I have is to discipline my children when they break the rules. God does not hate anyone for any reason. Just like a son or daughter who act against their father’s will…the father will still love the child while hating the activity. The father longs for the child to cease the rebellious behavior and return to the right path. The father celebrates when the child follows through and returns to be within the will of the father.
Our Father in Heaven treats us in the same way. God loves each of us dearly, more than anyone on earth could ever love another. God longs for us to follow him in perfect righteousness…but God knows that perfect righteousness is not possible for our mortal lives. This is the reason God sacrificed his Son, Jesus Christ, so that Christ may accept the penalty of sin (death) for all of us. (John 3:16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life”)

Anyone who states that God hates anyone for any reason is either misunderstanding the Word of God or they are simply deceiving you and will be judged for it. Do not listen to anyone who states God hates any person or people, for it is simply not true.
God will, however, discipline and abandon people who continue to sin against him. Romans 1:18, “But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness.” Romans 1:28, “Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done.”

Michael

5/2/2011 04:59:11 am

Ah, thanks, John. Your response makes it sound like God did intend people to suffer there. It sounded strange to say that it was possible for God to do something he didn't intend to do.

Alexon link

5/2/2011 05:34:46 am

Hey everybody. Good comments. I understand this is a touchy issue.

@Kevin: Good point and example. I don't think it's wrong to rejoice for freedom from oppression and the execution of Justice. What I'm saying is that we should not gloat over or rejoice in the fact that someone is burning in hell for eternity. I think there's a big difference, don't you? We should celebrate freedom, justice and peace..but we should not celebrate someone's demise. The event that causes these two different reactions might be the same, but the reason for celebration differs. Does that make sense?

@Mike...I know, I know. We are getting back into the predestination/free-will thing again. The Bible says Hell was created for the devil and his angels (see the reference in my post). But did God know things would turn out as they did. Of course? Is he working all things after the counsel of his own will? Yes of course. But the bible also says he desires that none should perish but all come to salvation and the knowledge of the truth. Conundrum. I still think God desired to be in perfect fellowship with man forever. That's where this whole "story" of human is culminating towards. Thoughts?

paul

5/2/2011 05:35:33 am

@JMichael - yes the Scripture tells us that Hell was made for Satan and those angels which sinned after him. - the verse Alex posted says this -
"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:"
In that verse, I notice that God is pronouncing that He is going to send people to Hell and that it was prepared for the devil and his angels. This poses some interesting questions though - what is meant by angels? Most theologians recognize that angels also simply mean "messengers". Also - does Satan "own" angles? We would all agree that he doesn't own anything, nor can he do anything apart from God allowing him to do something. Isn't the devil himself, an angel as well? Therefore, why differentiate between "the devil" who is an angel and then "his angels". Perhaps - and this is a big perhaps - maybe angels mean any of those creations which have the same message of rebellion as the devil himself did.
We all admit God is sovereign and that He is omniscient - He had to have known that people would also end up in an eternal Hell as well as those angels which rebelled against Him.
@ John - what if God says He hates some people? Now first read my post - in which you see I agree with Alex about our response to Osama's death but consider these verses -
Romans 9:13 - As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Psalm 5:5 - The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Psalm 11:5 - The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
Proverbs 6:16-19 -
16These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
I'm interested in hearing what you think of these verses. I think that we must differentiate between common grace and effectual grace - or in other words - the love that God gives to all people indiscriminately and then the love that God gives to His church.

John Golden

5/2/2011 06:07:52 am

@Paul, I am a simple guy, so I often cross reference KJV with NLT. The NLT translation of Prov 6:16-19 is as follows:

16There are six things the LORD hates--
no, seven things he detests:
17haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that kill the innocent,
18a heart that plots evil,
feet that race to do wrong,
19a false witness who pours out lies,
a person who sows discord in a family.

It seems to me here that this passage is references hate of the sin, not necessarily the people…hate the sin, love the sinner.

For Romans 9:13, the NLT also has a different translation of the word hate, I have added it here with more context, “13In the words of the Scriptures, “I loved Jacob, but I rejected Esau.”

14Are we saying, then, that God was unfair? Of course not! 15For God said to Moses,

“I will show mercy to anyone I choose,
and I will show compassion to anyone I choose.”

The following quote from ‘Biblos’ that provides “Barnes’ Notes on the Bible” gives a cleaner description of what “hate” likely referenced in this translation:

As it is written - Malachi 1:2-3. That is, the distribution of favors is on the principle advanced by the prophet, and is in accordance with the declaration that God had in fact loved the one and hated the other.
Jacob - This refers, doubtless, to the posterity of Jacob.

Have I loved - I have shown affection for that people; I have bestowed on them great privileges and blessings, as proofs of attachment. I have preferred Jacob to Esau.

Esau - The descendants of Esau, the Edomites; see Malachi 1:4.

Have I hated - This does not mean any positive hatred; but that he had preferred Jacob, and had withheld from Esau those privileges and blessings which he had conferred on the posterity of Jacob. This is explained in Malachi 1:3," And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness;" compare Jeremiah 49:17-18; Ezekiel 35:6. It was common among the Hebrews to use the terms "love" and "hatred" in this comparative sense, where the former implied strong positive attachment, and the latter, not positive hatred, but merely a less love, or the withholding of the expressions of affection; compare Genesis 29:30-31; Proverbs 13:24, "He that spareth his rod hateth his son; but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes;" Matthew 6:24, "No man can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other," etc.; Luke 14:26, "if any man come to me, and hate not his father and mother, etc."

Michael

5/2/2011 06:21:10 am

@alex I don't see it as a predestination v. free will issue. My point wasn't that God is mean, or something like that. Nor am I implying that your viewpoint suggests that God hates people.

It is just a contradiction in terms to say that God did something he did not intend, or that he did something and later regretted the consequences of his actions. Omniscience and omnipotence necessarily implies that those things could never happen.

The conclusion, it seems, is that people who believe in Hell have to reconcile its creation with God's knowledge that his standards would have people suffering for all eternity, and that this is a good thing. Which is fine, and there is clearly a strong argument for it, but saying "it was never his intention that people should suffer there" doesn't allow for a biblical description of God.

paul abeyta

5/2/2011 06:34:36 am

@ John - I'm glad you're simple - I hope that I am too, but I think that you are complicating things for yourself by referencing the NLT. The NLT is a dynamic equivalence translation - like the NIV is as well, so it's not a literal translation - but more of a "thought for thought" translation so as to make things more understandable. Unfortunately, it may do more harm than good.

It's interesting though how the translators involved didn't change the verses in the Psalms - what do you make of those verses? Plus, what we should care about is what is meant originally - and the Strongs concordance points out that those verses simply mean hate.

I'm not sure what matters about love and hate being opposite. What's the difference between love and love less? That feels like we are playing with semantics.
I also am confused as to why people go back to Malachi in those verses. Yes it is true that the Apostle quoted from Malachi, but the point he is making from that is concerning individuals - not nations.
Remember too that chapter 9 (there were no chapters and verses in the original text) is in the context of chapter 8 and the end of that chapter is all about God's favor for the bride of Christ. And it's interesting how the Apostle anticipates the response of those who hear his message and he says "are we saying that God is unfair" (NLT - which you posted). No - God is not unfair for loving one and hating another - He can give mercy to whom He wills and compassion to whom He chooses. Notice that those verses are singular. If we are to say here that the Apostle is speaking about nations - then his whole argument would be turned on its head.
Paul even anticipates another rebellious response to God's sovereignty in salvation and then he says in verse 19 and 20 -

19Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

20Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

Again - it is in the singular...
Thoughts?

John Golden

5/2/2011 07:26:42 am

Paul, my first thought is that I love that you are making me think! So often debates about interpretation turn into a ‘my way or the highway’ argument. What I have found in my limited time studying the scriptures is that each passage carries with it wisdom and guidance that can be interpreted differently based on the circumstance and situation.

Regarding this question, does God hate? I believe God hates sin. I believe God will ultimately judge every man, woman, and child who ever was or ever will be. I also believe many, most probably, will be condemned to hell. Does that mean we rejoice when a wicked man, guilty of murdering thousands, who has terrorized nations, is killed?

God created everything and everyone, right? God knows how everyone will turn out before they are even born, right? That means that God created Osama, and Hitler, and Mother Theresa…it also means He knew what each would choose before they were born. But God also gave each of these people free will…each chose their own path.

You quoted KJV for 19 & 20…I added 21 (because I find it amusing and a great analogy). I am using the NLT, so I do recognize it is simplified, but I also find it to be more reader friendly. I have to rely on the scholars and what they claim as the meaning of the original text…I believe that through cross reference, prayer, and discussion like this we can learn and grow together.

19Well then, you might say, “Why does God blame people for not responding? Haven’t they simply done what he makes them do?”
20No, don’t say that. Who are you, a mere human being, to argue with God? Should the thing that was created say to the one who created it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21When a potter makes jars out of clay, doesn’t he have a right to use the same lump of clay to make one jar for decoration and another to throw garbage into?

I often feel like the jar used for trash, but I know that through Christ, we are all saved. I know that as unlikely as it may have been, that had Osama turned to Christ in those final moments, he would have been saved. As much as you or I may not like to think about some of the worst monsters out there being saved, it can happen. So I ask…had Bin Laden turned to Christ in his final moments, had he accepted the truth and made Christ his Lord and Savior, would God have rejected him?

I can’t speak for God, obviously, but if the bible is the word of God (and I believe it is), then we are promised that if we accept Christ as our Lord and Savior, we will be saved. There are no exceptions listed. I am only human…I don’t understand God’s plan. I do not pretend to know what I cannot know. All I can do is read, pray, and learn from those who are willing to teach and who God has put before me to learn from.

I interpret the sacrifice made by Christ to be a display of love for all mankind…again, going back to John 3:16 (the ABCs). Does God hate individuals? I don’t know…only God can answer that. I believe that God hates our actions, our sin, our behavior. I also believe that God loves us and wants us to turn to Him. I believe that the sacrifice made by Jesus was done out of love and that love is extended to everyone who will accept Him. So does God love and hate the same person? I think it is more consistent to believe that we can ALL be forgiven of our sins through Christ.

I am not ignoring the Psalms, although I know it seems I am….I only have limited time between conference calls. I will read and research them more later. Great chat! Keep it coming!

paul

5/2/2011 01:59:48 pm

John, you were doing this in between conference calls!? I commend you brother - those were long and thought out comments you made!

I agree with you when you say that God hates sin. There is no doubt about that in my mind even. Sin is repulsive to Him - there is none in Him and He is so holy that He can't even stand to look at it - Habakkuk 1:13
I'm also in agreement with you when you say that God will judge every man that has ever lived or ever will live.
I don't know if you noticed my first post (it's the first one on this blog post) - I am not advocating the celebration of a single persons death - specifically Osama or any person whose life comes to an end without ever bowing the knee to God through Christ.

I agree with your statements about Obama, Hitler and Mother Theresa as well but if you could elaborate some more for me on "free will", I would appreciate that. You did say concerning that - that "they were able to choose their own path" (not sure what you meant about Mother Theresa as well - was she an example of a "good choice" because as much "good" as she did, she denies justification by faith alone doesn't she - she was Roman Catholic after all).

I'm not saying this is you - but many that I know who hold to people having "free will" say that because they base salvation being on the free will choice of the person.

Now, I am not convinced that we have "fee will" in that sense (although, I wouldn't mind if I was convinced). The reason being is because that would put the last word in salvation in the hand of the enemies of God. It would cause us to pose the question - why are you saved and not your brother? Is it because you were smarter, or more humble, or more diligent in seeking the truth?

You see, I believe that God is the author and finisher of our salvation. We need to be regenerated - we need to be born again - taken from death to life.

I do believe that we have a will - and we are free to operate with in that will. It may be more easy to understand though to say that we have free agency or that we are free moral agents - able to operate within the bounds of the agency.

If someone is "dead in sins" - they are free to choose that which is in accord with their nature.

But when someone is in Christ, they are free to choose within their "new" nature.

It doesn't mean that someone is as wicked as they can be for the "dead in sin" person, nor does it mean that the born again person will always choose the good. We are slaves to sin - or we are slaves to righteousness. I am happy and humbled to be a slave of righteousness.

I am with you as well when you say that you often feel like the jar used for trash. I oft feel that way too and it makes me eternally grateful for Christ's righteousness.

I as well agree that God is saving some of the worst monsters out there and that if Osama had confessed Christ as Lord, then He would be with Him in paradise right now even. Christians are closer to the murderous and rebellious Osama than we are to a perfect and holy God. We tend to think of ourselves as not that bad - but the truth of the matter is that sin has effected every realm of our existence.
I too am grateful that God has given us His word so that we may know Him by it. Because of that, I can say with confidence that if it was God's will that Osama repent and seek mercy, God would not reject Him. John 6 speaks to this on numerous levels, but here are a couple of specific verses - (Emphasis added in the form of CAPS) [NLT also btw]

61 Jesus was aware that his disciples were complaining, so he said to them, “Does this offend you? 62 Then what will you think if you see the Son of Man ascend to heaven again? 63 THE SPIRIT ALONE GIVES ETERNAL LIFE. HUMAN EFFORTS ACCOMPLISH NOTHING. And the very words I have spoken to you are spirit and life. 64 But some of you do not believe me.” (For Jesus knew from the beginning which ones didn’t believe, and he knew who would betray him.) 65 Then he said, “That is why I said that people CAN'T COME TO ME UNLESS THE FATHER GIVES THEM TO ME.”

So had God the Father given Osama to the Son - the Bridegroom, then certainly he would have came and Jesus certainly would have accepted Him. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are all working together in salvation - all with the same will and purpose. It's not like Jesus saves us from the Father - if we are saved, it is because it was the Father's will as well.

I hope you had a good day at work and look forward to some more dialog. If I neglected to respond to a point you made, let me know and I will see if I can on the next run :)

John Golden

5/4/2011 06:08:22 am

Wow…sorry, super long response…I have thoroughly enjoyed this back and forth!

Paul, you stated the following:

“I agree with your statements about Obama, Hitler and Mother Theresa as well but if you could elaborate some more for me on "free will", I would appreciate that. You did say concerning that - that "they were able to choose their own path" (not sure what you meant about Mother Theresa as well - was she an example of a "good choice" because as much "good" as she did, she denies justification by faith alone doesn't she - she was Roman Catholic after all).

I'm not saying this is you - but many that I know who hold to people having "free will" say that because they base salvation being on the free will choice of the person.”

First thing, I want to keep this from political, my reference was Osama, not Obama . I was attempting to contrast two people who are often associated with evil (Osama and Hitler) and someone who is associated with good (Mother Theresa).

Recently, our church did a sermon on the dangers of comparing ourselves to other people when judging our own behavior…about 100 easily recognizable faces were shown and the Pastor asked how many people look at Hitler (bad) and Billy Graham (good) and try to see where they stand on the ‘good’ scale. He then went into how that was the wrong way of thinking and we should be focused on how Christ lived, and not on how we compare against other people. We ALL fall short of God’s righteousness and only through Christ are we saved.

Regarding faith and good deeds…I am sure you know I am going to head straight for James 2:14-26. First, however, let’s review Romans 3:21-28:
21But now God has shown us a way to be made right with him without keeping the requirements of the law, as was promised in the writings of Moses and the prophets long ago. 22We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. And this is true for everyone who believes, no matter who we are.
23For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. 24Yet God, with undeserved kindness, declares that we are righteous. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins. 25For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. This sacrifice shows that God was being fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned in times past, 26for he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness, for he himself is fair and just, and he declares sinners to be right in his sight when they believe in Jesus.
27Can we boast, then, that we have done anything to be accepted by God? No, because our acquittal is not based on obeying the law. It is based on faith. 28So we are made right with God through faith and not by obeying the law.
This is the inspired Word of God, through the apostle Paul. This is true and this is what I believe. But we cannot stop there…for James 2:14-26 is also the inspired Word of God, through the apostle James. These two are not in conflict with each other…there is no contradiction, only greater guidance…James 2:14-26:
14What good is it, dear brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but don’t show it by your actions? Can that kind of faith save anyone? 15Suppose you see a brother or sister who has no food or clothing, 16and you say, “Good-bye and have a good day; stay warm and eat well”—but then you don’t give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do?
17So you see, faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless it produces good deeds, it is dead and useless.
18Now someone may argue, “Some people have faith; others have good deeds.” But I say, “How can you show me your faith if you don’t have good deeds? I will show you my faith by my good deeds.”
19You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. 20How foolish! Can’t you see that faith without good deeds is useless?
21Don’t you remember that our ancestor Abraham was shown to be right with God by his actions when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see, his faith and his actions worked together. His actions made his faith complete. 23And so it happened just as the Scriptures say: “Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.” He was even called the friend of God. 24So you see, we are shown to be right with God by what we do, not by faith alone.
25Rahab the prostitute is another example. She was shown to be right with God by her actions when she hid those messengers and sent them safely away by a different road. 26Just as the body is dead without br

John Golden

5/4/2011 06:09:38 am

26Just as the body is dead without breath, so also faith is dead without good works.

The bible either contains the Word of God or it does not…there is no mixing and matching (in my opinion). Only through faith in Jesus Christ are we saved. We do not have to, nor should we be, doing works to prove our faith to other people. However, God has given pretty clear direction on what he wants us to do with our time and money…if we claim to have faith, but ignore His call for us to help others, do we really have faith?

I just had a conversation last night with a friend about the different Christian faiths that exist today…can we call one person right and another person wrong when both believe that Christ was born, lived, died, and was resurrected…that He died for our sins and is the Son of God and God Himself? But if one is Catholic and another is Baptist, and a third is “non-Denominational”…can we judge one over the other? Is that our job or have we specifically been told not to do that?

Only God knows the true heart of a person and what they truly believe. One man may be a Pastor who leads hundreds to Christ, but not truly believe himself…another may not outwardly show what they believe, but in reality have a stronger conviction than anyone else…we cannot judge either, we have been warned not to. We still do judge, at least I do…because I am human and I make mistakes…but we are warned against this behavior. All I can do try to stop and pray for help in that effort.

I have family and some friends who deny God, but who do works of charity. One believes that if God is true, then their good works will save them…no matter how many times we have the conversation, they cannot wrap their mind around the idea of salvation through faith in Christ. We are not saved through works, we cannot earn what Christ has sacrificed for us, we cannot earn grace…this is a gift, given freely by God.

When we are saved, however, we want to do works….not as proof of our faith, but out of love. Verse 24 above says, “…we are shown to be right with God by what we do, not by faith alone.” This means that we must have faith, but with faith, we also want to follow through. Walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

Regarding free will…we are free to choose right from wrong…everyday, we have a choice…every action. As believers, we are promised that we will be tempted, but we are also promised that a way out will be provided (for the temptation). We have the free will to choose to take the way out or to fall to the temptation. (1 Corinthians 10:13 “The temptations in your life are no different from what others experience. And God is faithful. He will not allow the temptation to be more than you can stand. When you are tempted, he will show you a way out so that you can endure.”)

Side note - I have seen 1 Cor 10:13 interpreted that God will not allow us to have any burden we cannot bear and we will always have a way out…some have believed this burden to include illness…but that is not true, in my opinion. We do get sick, we do get cancer, our physical bodies do die…there is no way out of this.

I do not believe we have free will regarding salvation…I cannot choose to be saved or not, I can only choose to give my life to Christ. God has promised that we will be saved if we believe, and have faith, and give our lives to Christ…but that is not my choice, only my wish and desire 

paul

5/4/2011 09:13:06 am

Thanks for the response John. I will respond back to you on FB so as not to hijack any more of Alex's blog post......but I actually meant "Osama" - not "Obama"....slip of the finger I suppose

Inspirational Christian quotes link

5/14/2012 07:18:45 pm

Excellent read, I just passed this onto a colleague who was doing a little research on that. And he actually bought me lunch because I found it for him smile So let me rephrase that: Thanks for lunch!

alexonhe

5/15/2012 01:38:22 am

@Inspirational... Glad you got a free lunch! :)

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