We've all heard horror stories of the wars that go on behind closed doors between worship leaders and their senior pastors. What's the deal?! Why can't worship leaders and senior pastors get along? Today we talk with Ben Sobels, Senior Pastor of Cypress Church, about what it takes to have a great relationship with your closest ally in ministry. If you're a worship leader struggling with your senior pastor, or if you're a senior pastor wanting to have a better relationship with your worship leader, this episode is for you! Feel free to pass it on to anyone you know who is struggling with this issue.